In the true ancient fashion of King Arthur’s Knights of the Round Table, we have also gathered men of the highest order, not of chivalry but of investment expertise, at our virtual Round Table. In a world first, and a coup of note, four of the investment industry’s leading lights have gathered to debate and map out the direction of global financial markets.
The investment warriors occupying a special place at our Round Table are:
Knight Martin Barnes, managing editor of BCA Research,one of the world’s leading independent providers of global investment research. Martin was raised in Scotland, but relocated to Canada in 1987.
Knight David Fuller, a career analyst, writer, lecturer and investor/trader. He is a director of Stockcube Research where he is Global Strategist and the producer of the daily Fullermoney investment commentary. David was born in New York, but has been living in London since 1969.
Knight John Mauldin, president of Millennium Wave Investments and the author of the Thoughts from the Frontline e-letter and two New York Times best-selling books, namely Bull’s Eye Investing and Just One Thing. John lives in Dallas, Texas.
Knight Barry Ritholtz, the founder of Ritholtz Research and Analytics, author of The Big Picture financial blog and the Apprenticed Investor column and a weekly guest on Kudlow & Company. Barry lives on Long Island, New York.
I have assumed the King’s role in this cast, or more specifically that of moderator of the discussion.
The scene has been set, the wine has been poured and our warriors are ready to do battle.
Prieur: Gentlemen, let’s commence our discussion with a bird’s-eye view of economic growth. Firstly, where are we in the US economic cycle? Martin would you like to set the ball rolling?
Martin: Certainly. The economy is only part-way through a long expansion that began in 2001, after the briefest and mildest recession on record. The economy has been growing below trend since the second quarter of 2006, and this seems likely to persist through the end of this year, reflecting ongoing woes in housing and some retraction in consumer spending. There are no indications of recession any time soon.
David: The US economic cycle is going through a predictable slowdown, largely because of the sub-prime problems, exacerbated by rising long-term interest rates. I maintain that this is no more than a mid-term lull, not least due to the overall strength of the global economy, led by Asia.
The next slowdown period for the US may be in 2009 and 2010, if the Fed and a new administration in the White House decide to clean the Augean stables during the first two years of the US presidential cycle, as is sometimes the case. Also, money-supply figures indicate that inflationary pressures will increase, albeit erratically.
Barry: Based on historical comparisons, we are somewhat late in the cycle. But I hasten to add that prior cycles have not seen this much liquidity in terms of ultra-low rates and printed money. So it makes it difficult comparing apples with apples.
It’s also worth noting that we are only four years from the post-crash bottom. The effects of that collapse are still being felt.
The significance of the housing boom to the US economic expansion from 2001 to 2006 cannot be overstated. The full fallout from that unwinding, in both the sub-prime bust and the impact on consumer spending, is yet to be seen.
John: It seems that the discussion is progressing from relatively upbeat to my rather bearish stance. I still think we will see more of the current slowdown and perhaps a recession, primarily due to the slowdown in housing. As an example of the problem, the Los Angeles Times reports that the most recent UCLA Anderson Forecast for California suggests that the housing market there may not return to “normal” until mid-2009, and job losses in real estate finance and housing will depress hiring through the middle of 2008, lifting the unemployment rate in the Golden State to 5.5%. That certainly corresponds to at least a mild localized California recession. And I think that scenario will play out to a greater or lesser degree throughout the country.
That said, the rest of the economy is doing well, so I think that we will see a continued slowdown or mild recession for this year and then, coming out of that, the US economy should start doing well again. (more…)

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